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Friday, 13 July 2012

Note to Women: If you Don't want to get Hit On, then Don't Dress in a Way that Communicates the Opposite

Posted on 23:30 by the great khali
Some of you may be familiar with Hackernews. It's a news aggregator for stories relevant to the IT industry, with a slight bent towards the sensationalist. Some headlines would even make FARK proud. Apart from the usual success porn about startups and arousing details about new hardware or software products, stories about the alleged difficulties of women in a male centric field are another mainstay of this site. As with all sites, once they reach a certain level of popularity, quality takes a nose dive. As you can imagine, the amount of politically correct White Knights and Manginas trying to defend erroneous female reasoning is rather high nowadays.

A recent story was about a woman, calling herself "kdotcot", who attended Defcon, which is "the world's longest running and largest underground hacking conference". What would you expect if you were a woman and attended a conference that attracts a mostly male crowd? Well, plenty of attention, for starters. And what do you do if you are a woman who is going to attend such a conference, and who doesn't want to get hit on? Well, you'd of course you keep the push-up bras, high-heels and skimpy skirt at home and wear something more professional. You know, the kind of outfit you'd expect from, say, a female attorney or accountant.

However, if you are "kdotcot", you do the exact opposite and parade your tits around at Defcon. Attention is great, but if you are "kdotcot" and get attention from the "wrong" kind of guys, then you turn towards the Internet and vent your frustration. She writes:

Nothing could have prepared me for the onslaught of bad behavior I experienced. Like the man who drunkenly tried to lick my shoulder tattoo. Like the man who grabbed my hips while I was waiting for a drink at the EFF party. Like the man who tried to get me to show him my tits so he could punch a hole in a card that, when filled, would net him a favor from one of the official security staff.

OK, let me break it down for you: Was there anything that kept you from wearing a blazer and other "professional" attire? I hope it wasn't the f*cking patriarchy that forced you to show off the tattoo on your shoulder. Likewise, if you party, and your are exposing your skin, you can expect some guys to get physical. This is something every girl who has ever been to a bar or a club knows. If they don't want that kind of attention, then they either seek out different venues, or dress in a way that their mothers would approve of. This is only difficult to understand if you are a woman who wants attention but doesn't want to deal with the consequences.

I can already hear the feminists clamor that men are such pigs, but let's not forget how women act when you put too many of them in a room. They are actually much worse than we men are. If you bump into a hen-party in a club, you can expect behavior towards men you wouldn't believe. Some years ago I attended a conference in Oxford, and after the official program was over, I felt like checking out the local bar and club scene, because I had a reputation to live up to. I'm used to getting my ass pinched in clubs every once in a while, but a horde of twenty drunk women doesn't engage in such minor league activities. I won't go into much detail, because I want to spare you the horrors of having to picture overweight English "ladies" trying to grab the crotch of unsuspecting men or absurdities like fatties dipping a dildo in a pint of beer and licking or fellating it. If this is an environment that bothers you, then you'd do what I did back then in this dubious bar in Oxford: turn around and go somewhere else. What's so hard to understand about that?

But little Miss "kdotcot" just doesn't get it:
Because I am a Very Bad Adult, I finished packing my bags at a completely unreasonable hour of the morning last night. While I was deciding what clothes to take with me to New York, something dawned on me; I was already thinking about what clothes I would avoid taking to Las Vegas for Defcon. Short skirts, low cut tops, tight dresses, and anything that might be overtly attention-grabbing have (sic!) been bumped to second priority on that packing list.
Oh, the Horror! Sexism! Oppression of Wimmenz!!1 Quick, let's Put a Blog Post Up and Stir Up a Shitstorm!!!1!!

Here's a newsflash for you, lady: If you don't want attention, then don't advertise yourself. If this doesn't sound plausible to you, then let me tell you why things are like they are: The reason is simply that women normally DO NOT approach men, no matter how eager they are to have a nice big cock inside of them. Exceptions only prove the rule. We live in a society in which men have to make a move. If we all just stood around, waiting for women to come on to us, we wouldn't get laid and instead of seven billion people on this planet there would be a few tribes of nomads scattered on its surface.

This is yet another example of the twisted logic of women. On the one hand, they enjoy the attention they get for wearing short skirts, or tops that expose their tits, but if they get attention from the wrong kind of guy, it's suddenly sexism. If Brad Pitt grabs your ass, it's a sexual fantasy. Yet, if Joe the Plumber does so, he's a sexist that should be locked up immediately and get castrated.

Let me thus introduce a concept that seems rather alien to women like "kdotcot". It is called personal responsibility. This means that instead of whining to someone else after you've done something stupid, you ask yourself whether your behavior has actually contributed to the result. As anybody in Western society is aware of, a woman who dresses in "provocative" clothing advertises her sexuality and literally screams, "come, hit on me!" However, at the same time she wants to protect her fragile ego and therefore leaves the task of initiating contact to the guy. The woman just sits back and waits for Brad and Fabio and Damian and Richard to make a move. Let's better hope the woman in question is as good looking as the men she fantasizes about getting approached by, but that's another story.

If you ask yourself what all of this means, then let me spell it out more slowly for the logically challenged: If a woman doesn't approach men but instead invites men to approach her by the way she's dressing or behaving, then she has no right to complain when the "wrong" kind of guy approaches them. The alternative is simple: approach the guys you fancy yourself, and deal with the possibility of rejection. Obviously, this isn't too appealing to women either. But, hey, why not just claim that men who reject unattractive women who come on to them are "cruel" and should be persecuted for psychological violence. Maybe this would fix the situation and finally enable women to approach men, and take care of the issue. I'm sorry for sounding facetious, but I can't help it when I am confronted with arguments that sound as if they were presented by an eight-year old.

Of course, all is well if a woman goes out, showing off her tits, and eventually getting picked up by a guy who makes her gina tingle. I am sure that if the woman who wrote that feminist sob-piece had found the guy attractive who invited her to his room for a "private pillow fight party", all would have been well and we would now read some drivel like "♥♥♥♥♥ How to Meet the Hunk of Your Dreams at a Hacker Conference. :) :) :) :) ♥♥♥♥♥"

You can't have it both ways. If you dress "provocatively" and leave it up to the guy to approach you, you have to live with the fact that guys you might not find attractive will hit on you. However, you can't go out, feed off the attention of guys, and then complain if those hitting on you don't all look like Baptiste Giabiconi.

Please stay tuned for next week's blog post on a half-naked male stripper who broke out in tears after getting groped by seven women on a bachelorette party.
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Thursday, 14 June 2012

Great Satire: Blog on Gaming Fatties

Posted on 23:30 by the great khali

One of my readers (thanks, Andras!) sent me an email telling me about Nigel's Big Game Blog. If you are looking for a humorous take on the PUA subculture, look no further. The premise of the blog is that chubby chaser "Nigel" uses his superior understanding of "game" to go after, well, fat women. It should be obvious that it is a parody.

"Nigel" seems to be a very smart guy, and I can only applaud his imagination. He had me in stitches.

Just check this out:
In my last post I talked about how important it is to have the wherewithal to spear a fat mammoth hoe like the one above; however there is another bear necessity for chubby chasing I forgot to mention: physical fitness. You have got to be able to handle the intense weight of a big woman, otherwise you will be squashed like the pancakes she ate for breakfast, period. Just imagine having sex with a fattie, and all the sudden she wants to be on top. If you’re serious about chubby chasing, it’s important to train like an Olympic weight lifter. Fat girls love guys with big hard bodies for sure, but more importantly it is for the practicality, for being able to handle that big business. I train hard at the gym, and that’s why I’m like a forklift lifting heavy cargo.


In a later post, he offers his take on "logistics":

I shove her in and drive off like a thief in the night. It’s critical that I drive quickly, because if the ride is too long she might expect me to get her food at a drive-through. Getting fast food for any woman is a classic amateur chubby chaser mistake. It sounds like a great idea, but in practice the food not only tires her out, but gives her less of a reason to come home with me because It eliminates both the plausible deniability and excitement of coming over my house for food. I want fatties coming to my house hungry, awake, and horny, not tired and confused. Also notice the size of the van, it can accommodate the biggest women. Yeah, I could bang her in the van, it has tinted windows, but I prefer more space to maneuver. 
Once I’ve got her drooling for scooby snacks in The Mystery Machine, I drive on up to my house while continuing to promise her a five star, five course gourmet dinner — little does she know that dinner will be served in liquid form. Rather than park the vehicle in the driveway and have her painfully struggle to walk, I press my remote control garage door opener and drive into the garage, where I have the setup: a large California king sized bed, home-entertainment system with digital projector and surround sound, popcorn machine, cotton candy machine, and a fridge full of food. Once inside the garage, all she has to do is exit the van.

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Tuesday, 12 June 2012

Guest Post: So, you think you've got Game? (by Johnny)

Posted on 23:30 by the great khali
This guest post is by Johnny whom you know from his Anti-PUA blog. He shows how little "game" accounts for in the real world by example of a comment brought up by Mark Manson. Mark Manson claims to have a friend who cuts a swathe anywhere he goes. Yet, during an extended vacation in India (4 to 5 months!) he couldn't get laid once.

Johnny is Indian and lives in India. Thus, he has some interesting insights to share.



So Mark Manson mentioned this somewhere in his forum which Sleazy talked about here. I am posting this once again because I came across some thread titled "chance of getting laid in India" on rooshvforum while random googling. (I am an Indian guy who lives in India). The thread is here.


There Mark Manson posted a comment where he said he knows a "friend" who has amazing game and cleans up everywhere he goes but he spent 4-5 months in India and couldn't get laid even once. Put this together with the comment he made on how he approaches based on his interest, people try to make pick-up easy by joining yoga and dance classes etc. and you see how stupid the whole thing sounds. 


So basically, he talks about doing all this shit, don't approach based on her interests blah blah blah but his "friend" with amazing game (and everyone else seemingly on that thread) can't get laid in India. They also talk about how they are able to get Indian women outside India but never in India. So basically, in a difficult environment, all the shit everyone teaches becomes irrelevant? Does that mean you can only ever get "easy" women in the first place?


Another interesting point to note in that thread - someone said how in India you see Indian guys with white girls but never the other way around, i.e. white guys with Indian girls. Once again, you can only get women who are "easy" or who make it "easy" for you. No matter how much game you have, you will never get "hard" women. Guys like Mark Manson who have spent years doing nothing other than optimizing themselves to pick up chicks are still not able to get difficult women! 


The thing about India is that it is indeed an extreme environment. The other weird thing about India is that being blonde and blue-eyed is definitely not an advantage (unless you place yourself in very specific environments) and in most cases, it is a big disadvantage (not very different from what Asians, Indians face in other countries). I am willing to bet his "friend" is very close to a standard blonde blue eyed guy. 


Now it is certainly not impossible to get laid in India. I get laid with reasonable regularity, I know plenty of friends now who get laid with reasonable regularity. You basically need to know where to find "easy" women, how to spot "easy" women and just take things a little slower than you normally would in other cities around the world. 


Going back to the original point, you can only get easy women. You can do whatever shit you want, approach girls indiscriminately, approach based on "your" interest nor hers, not join yoga classes to make it easy on yourself and the like - you will only ever get easy women who show interest in you. 


If that was not the case, well, please tell me how none of these guys can get laid in an environment where all their natural advantages are stripped off? Another point, next time someone says race etc. doesn't matter, or that being from a minority race is not a disadvantage and that dressing up, hitting the gym is enough - please ask him to explain this "awesome game guy" phenomenon who can't get laid in India.
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Monday, 4 June 2012

A PUA Instructor Tells What he Thinks of his Clients

Posted on 23:30 by the great khali
There were some interesting responses to my re-post of XXX's review of a bootcamp he's taken with BradP. To my great surprise, a commercial PUA instructor chimed in and had this to say about his clients. I was not the only one who couldn't believe it:

That being said... most of the guys in the community are so zeroed down in terms of life skills, social skills and general ability to stand up for themselves that at the end of the day, when we started getting more serious about this & contemplated going pro, we were raised with the following dilemma:
1) Should we help needy idiots who will bug the fuck out of us on questions that they should be able to figure out themselves?
2) Is it really the fact that the customer market for this is filled with people who are A) Okay enough that they will get good enough without our help B) Belong to the first group whom we really, really do not want to spend the least amount of time with.
So yeah. Reading reviews where jlaix spent the better part of the BC drunk or like this and knowing my local 'gurus' makes it easy to call anyone a moron who expects actual results from a bootcamp. But knowing the community and the people who fill it up... man, no wonder they charge so fucking much, for every normal person you have three or four people who need their hands held taking the bus downtown.
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Friday, 1 June 2012

Recent Forum Highlights

Posted on 23:30 by the great khali
There have been a lot of great posts on my forum recently, and in this post I'll highlight a few of them. All of them are worth reading as they cover typical issues in the "community" and give great advice. The excerpts are just teasers, and if any of them catches your interest, then check out the corresponding thread.

Assanova: "Beating The Numbers Game"

 I've noticed that the biggest complaint in the seduction community, is the flakey women. However, what most guys don't realize, is that when a woman gives you her phone number, and she really did seem like she was into you, chances are, she really is interested in seeing you again. 
So what is the problem then? There is almost no legit information about what to do with phone numbers, outside of playing a huge numbers game. Well, I have some pretty legit advice; field tested and approved.



Scandinavian: "Short guy, huge reality check/rude awakening"

TL;DR version: Short guy realizes he's way below average height and how that might severely limit dating options previously thought to be average. Disillusioned, depressed, needs advice on how to cope with that realization in relation to general confidence and the way forward.



Laymansterm: "List of Warm and DTF Signals"

- Her hips were slightly turned away from the people standing near her
- Taking up a lot of space on the dance floor
- Speaking loudly so that you can overhear her conversation
- Taking group pictures
- Dancing in a very erotic way, ideally on her own
- Raising her hands in the air
(many more in the post!) 



Tryhard: "Cold approach is weird, 'Approach Anxiety' normal"

People do not approach strangers without good reason. Consider the following example -
You are walking down the street and notice someone drop their wallet. You rush to grab the wallet and shout at them to stop. They don't hear you, so you have to tap them on the shoulder. They turn around, alarmed, aiming a quizzical look at you while their eyes take in the wallet and it quickly dawns on them what is occurring. Their face changes instantly and they warmly thank you.
This demonstrates how hostile people are to being approached by a stranger. It is only when you can demonstrate you have the best intentions that people's guard will drop. Most of the time people go into 'what does this person want from me and how can I get rid of them' mode. Is it any wonder cold-approach is mostly useless (with possible exception when a girl is very attracted to you and will forgive your clumsy approach)?


Stelar: "Unmentioned things..."
1. You don't need friends to meet women.
2. Money alone won't make women sleep with you.
3. During the day you can be mommy's little loser , but when the night comes there is nothing stopping you from fucking horny college girls.
4. All of you will slowly start to realize that the opinions of those who do not actively participate in your life do not matter.

Neparlepas: "Back into North America after 2 years travel"


Coming from Eastern Europe, im shocked how different the game in the west is in comparison. 
Cannot have a normal conversation with a woman if you first don't 1.ignore her 2.make her jealous with another girl 3.Show status (bouncer,promoter). They cannot connect to anything real like life experiences or goals. They exponentially get interest the more u don't care about them (the more u treat them bad). 
At the same time, I never rejected so many girls. They are dressed like shit, short, and chubby but they expect you to talk to them or even kiss their hand (one girl literally asked me that when I wanted to leave her). I had another girl start crying because I didnt want to answer her. 
For those who didnt see my earlier posts, I was able to pull pretty much when I wanted before leaving to travel.
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Thursday, 31 May 2012

Thank You Letter from a Reader

Posted on 23:30 by the great khali

Here's another letter sent from one of my followers. It's Johnny whom you might know from his blog, which is full of gems such as his recent "Women are just as clueless as guys".

He sent me a thank you letter recently, and since the other longer emails I have reposted (always with permission) on my blog turned out to be quite motivational for some of you guys, I'll share this one with you as well:

Hey Sleazy,


I wanted to send you this long due thank you email. The full impact of following the advice on your blog and forum is something which I felt a great deal of earlier but it was more in a prevention of negative aspect kind of way wherein you ended up saving a lot of my time. 



I knew I would begin to see serious positives soon and there have been a few instances lately which have been nothing short of spectacular for me. So nowadays, I just go about doing my own thing and if I sense that a girl likes me, I attempt to move it forward. 


Yesterday, I fucked this girl who I met at a dance workshop. Honestly, in this case I am not even sure what gave me the feeling that she likes me. Nothing makes any logical sense. Maybe she was standing a little closer than most girls would, but hey, this was Argentine tango where we dance chest to chest, so that can't be it. Maybe she was talking with a lot of emotion, who knows. I can't put a finger on it. But it's like the moment I spoke to her, I knew she likes me. We went to a Milonga and took her for drinks after and then back to her place. 


I also went out on a date with my tango instructor! As you might know, dance instructors are usually ridiculously hot and literally get hit on by just too many guys. If I was still in my PUA days, I would probably make a complete fool of myself, or most likely, would never bother hitting on such an "impossible set". Once again, I am not even sure what gave me the impression that she likes me. Maybe she was holding me way too close while dancing, but then you dance chest to chest with every girl so clearly, that can't be it. I honestly don't know what was it, but I just knew. Lets see if I can close the deal with her, but still man, it's amazing how much my intuition has developed with recognizing which women like me. 


My escalation intuition is still not so good yet, but I have a strong feeling that will get really good too. But seriously man, all this is such a far cry from my PUA days where I was blindly hitting on women. Looking back, there were so many days and nights where after hitting on 10 chicks, I couldn't even remember their faces/names 20 mins later. If that is how little I felt about these women, I don't know what were they feeling. 


Recently I got a male friend of mine a date with this waitress. He was literally shocked at my intuition. In this case, she just normally came to collect our drinks order, and asked my friend what he would like to drink, made a couple of suggestions and that's it. I told her dude, she likes you. When he asked me, I tried to give him reasons and his response was like that is just what every waitress does. When I told him go for it, he asked her, can i buy you a drink? She started giggling and the rest as they say, is history. 


Thank you so much man for all your advice. I don't know how much people seriously follow your advice, but it seriously works. 


Thanks again,
Johnny

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Friday, 25 May 2012

Another Breakthrough Story

Posted on 23:30 by the great khali
Last week I received a thank you email from "UCB" who has been following my advice and has, as a consequence, found great success with women. It was a great pleasure reading his email. However, I was not only feeling flattered, I  also thought that his story might motivate a few of the guys who feel they are a bit stuck, or who haven't done any active steps yet.


Aaron,

I just wanted to take a moment to personally thank you for putting this site together. Like many guys in my generation, I spent years bouncing in and out of the seduction "community." I'm sure you've heard the story hundreds of times by now, so I won't bore you with the particular details of mine. To be honest, I've always felt that there was something a little bit off about the community. I always felt a lot of shame whenever it came out that I was in any way involved in it, and I stopped going to lair meetings after a couple of months because many of the guys in it were just plain weird, and not all the type of guys I'd want to emulate. But I stuck with it because there just wasn't anything better out there as far as I could see.
I'm not exactly sure how I stumbled upon your blog (I think you were on Assanova's blog roll when www.realmademen.com was active, and I trusted his opinion enough to head on over), but I'm glad I did. Everything you wrote about in "Debunking the Seduction Community" resonated deeply with me. By that point I couldn't even be mad at the community any more. More than anything I was just disappointed that I had wasted so much time in it, and that the guys who were supposed to be doing the most to help men get better with women were often doing the exact opposite. Eventually I picked up Minimal Game, and it was the first pickup book I read that actually mirrored my real life experience. When I thought about the guys I knew personally who were the most successful with women, they all did certain things that are glossed over in traditional pickup material. The things they had in common were that they were all good-looking (though not necessarily traditionally so - the less attractive guys got by by dressing well and focusing on a niche, something you address specifically in your book), they all approached a large number of women, and they were all extremely sexually aggressive -- just as you had stated in your book.

I still wasn't able to figure out how to put it all into practice for myself until I ran across your guest post by Anthony Myers. I've always been into sports and have had a sporty, athletic build, but I don't I ever realized the effect having a great body could have on my attractiveness. Six months on, and I'm stronger, leaner, and more muscular than I've ever been. I've been approached by so many girls in the past month that I now joke that having a nice body is the ultimate peacocking accessory. And following your advice, I've made my niche in places where being strong and athletic is a natural fit. I've joined a couple of team sports leagues and am scheduled for yoga teacher training later this year. I've developed my own personal style: a mix of clean-cut preppy type (think Diesel, J. Crew, Asos, and Express) with a heavy dose of douchebag accessories to add some sexual stereotyping to the mix. I never cold approach anymore - the girls who are interested give far more obvious signs these days. I've had more sexcess (I meant to type that up as success, but I guess it came out as a Freudian slip - sexual success to excess?) this year than I'd had in multiple years combined prior (7 total girls this year, 4 new, with three of those coming in the last month), and I've got a cute girl who's ten years my junior coming over to spend the night with me later -- this one the result of my first ever "daygame" pickup. I wish I could say that pickup was the result of having spent years approaching hundreds of girls and mastering my in-set routine, but the truth is that I'd just hit a couple of personal records in the gym and my confidence level was through the roof. By the time we met eyes in the cafe an hour later, approaching a cute girl was barely an afterthought. It turns out that squatting over two times your bodyweight at 10% body fat is the ultimate affirmation.

Seriously though, I know this is long, but I really can't thank you enough for what you've done here. I fully recognize that I'm the one who had to the do the hard work of getting to the gym every day, but it was your work here that helped open my eyes up to how going to the gym could drastically improve my sex life. I used to loathe going to the gym, now I can't imagine where I'd be without it. If you decide to post this article to your site, please give a very public shout out to Assanova (and ask him to bring his site back!) and the guys over at goodlookingloser as well. I wish this stuff had been around when I was first coming up in the game, as it's the only material that has led to clear, demonstrable results in the dating game for me. The guys coming up and reading your site these days don't realize how good they have it. Thanks again.

- UCB
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