Look at Owen aka Tyler from RSD! Ouch...

I’ve been very busy recently, and have hardly kept up with the nonsense in the pickup scene. I believe that the market is shrinking and that the fad will be over in a few years, but this shouldn’t stop us to have some more cheap laughs at those guys.

Among the emails I have recently received was one by JuiceTerry in mid-September (yes, I have been really busy). He wrote:

The first ever infield footage of Tyler Durden emerged last week. As you can imagine, it's not exactly overwhelming or awe-inspiring.

Needless to say, this piqued my intrigue quite a bit, and I couldn’t resist watching the clip. Voilá!



It certainly wasn’t impressed nor entertained, but it was one of the most bizarre videos I have watched in quite a while. Here’s a short “laundry list of ridicule”, as RSD’s Tim would probably call it:

0) Is it just me or does the video look like blue screen, i.e. he only got copied into a street scene?
1) Tyler’s intonation
2) “Ha!”
3) Hair loss
4) No clue of style
5) Haggard frame (What happened to “I’m-gonna-be-buff-4-life-Tyler”?)
6) “Hahahaha!”
7) “The shy girl. Ha!”
8) “Hahahaha.”
9) By 1:18 I was already annoyed beyond belief.

…and the actual in-field video has not even started. Oh, and by the way, even 16 year-old girls make fun of Real Social Dynamics nowadays:



…and they are getting more views than Tyler too.

Some people still don't get it, though. For instance, one comment to the Tyler video on Youtube was:

"tyler durden and mystery are people we should all look up to! both got their shit down, if this was taught in class, crime rate would be 50% lower, eeeeeeaaaaaaaaassssssssssillly yyy."

And another:

IMO he was faking AFC body language by nervously fiddling with objects in order to make himself seem more accessible

Yeah, right...

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The Truth About Pick-Up

Recently blog reader "neparlepas" made me aware of two new videos by OGFurious, whom I have mentioned in my post Putting the Fun back into Pickup. The first one is just more comedy gold, but it'll not comment on it. Just watch it and laugh, or tell me that I'm childish if I find this stuff funny.

The second one strikes a much more serious tone and beautifully describes the problems with "technique-driven game". It's not news to anyone who has followed my blog or other writings, but it's a nice summary regardless:

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A Random Laugh

I was recently looking for a book on chess openings, and this was what the search engine I used spat out:

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Putting the Fun back into Pickup

Given the rather high comic value of the pickup community, I always wondered why there aren't many people openly mocking fun of it and parody it. Admittedly, PUAHate is sometimes great at displaying the nonsense of the scene, but as far as parodies are concerned, not much has been around.

There were some attempts such as the hilarious article "Fast Seduction 101 and wikiHow" on Something Awful, which, among other things ridiculed the bizarre acronyms in use on mASF, and cited from retarded to downright scary posts. (Too bad they didn't cover some of the sickening "rape reports" such Gruenfeld's Hottie Hardcore LMR day2, but such is not funny but tragic and I hope that karma has gotten this a**hole by now.)

The article on Something Awful appeared over three years ago, but it didn't seem to catch on. Back then idiocy was about as rampant as it is nowadays, and Mehow had yet to appear on the scene.

Back then I also wasn't aware that developing an "insider vocabulary" was part of the marketing techniques, and it is actually part of the content of the products of fraudulent Internet marketers. For instance, convicted felon Frank Kern (who cut his teeth in the Internet marketing business by running a pyramid scheme) draws plenty of examples from the seduction industry. But people watching those programs apparently take it too seriously since they have paid serious money for it, or, in case of the US, just took out some more loans.

I also remember a parody of Mystery and Style in which a dude in horrible make up who calls himself "Misery" is teaching some geeks a couple of concepts from Mystery Method. His assistant has the name "Stylus". This was when the Nintendo DS was on the height of its popularity. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the video on Youtube.

What I did find, though, was this hilarious "tribute" to my favorite Polish PUA, Mehow:



I haven't heard anything from Mehow in a while. Rumors were that he wasn't doing that great these days, financially speaking. Then again, has he ever?

But none of this reached the extent of a thorough parody, but recently once guy crossed this threshold. He calls himself OGFurious. At first I wasn't sure whether he really is serious, but thankfully he has this message at the end of his videos:

Here is one of my favourites:



Indeed, unlike the other PUA videos which are unintentionally funny (again, Mehow comes to mind), this is a guy who makes parodies on purpose, and it's not bad at all.

Also check out this one:



Keep smiling. :)

(Thanks to JonniD for telling me about OGFurious).

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Which guru is the most likely to get a sexual harrasment charge?

I was skimming PUAHate.com recently. While I think that the forum has gone downhill a lot in recent months, it still makes for the occasional entertaining read, such as when I saw a post by "Monstar" who asked "Which guru do you think is the most likely to get a sexual harassment charge..."

I was disappointed to not see my name in the short list that followed, which was:

3. Ross Jeffries
2. Ozzie RSD
1. Sean Stephanson

But some other guy chimed in (spelling fixed):

What about this guy Aaron Sleazy? He made an ebook about his hate of the PU industry (not community as he points out) but at the same time he has a book out and encourages people on his forum to flirt and get laid by 1) not saying a word, 2) keep isolating and 3) keep sexually escalating.. He also does bootcamps but only with men who are already successful w/women.

Dude I remember i felt a girls hair once and told her she had really pretty hair and then she thanked me and just moved out of the line to another one..(she was with her friend) And I know this guy Sleazy will probably say, "You didn't do the technique right" or "Just move on dude. She probably wasn't being receptive..", but I don't give a f*ck dude..Its just gross, sleazy and requires a really raunchy type of dude to keep doing it..I felt gross after I felt that girls hair too and just left the club because i was kind of embarrassed..

Plus I heard this guy Aaron Sleazy rose in the PU ranks because of his "bathroom game."

Maybe its because hes European and this type of sh*t just flows there but your a** is looking at a class 1 felony doing that type of sh*t in America.. You will not get away with that shit in America and if you do, you will end up f*cking some nasty ass skunks..

Now that was quite funny, because I don't think that touching a girls hair while saying her that it looks nice is nothing special, and then this guy felt embarrassed and left the club. This probably shows pretty well how uptight some men are. Just think of it, if a girl walked up to you and grazed your pecs while commenting on it, you'd feel good about yourself, too, wouldn't you? Of course, in both cases the presumption is that there is some mutual sexual attraction there to begin with, but you don't do this kind of stuff anyway if you get the impression that it is otherwise.

Thankfully "Uncle Stickyhands" came to my rescue and replied:

Dude, you really need to stop going to church and lose your virginity asap.

I couldn't agree more.

On the other hand, there is the obvious issue of how you perceive someone who is making a move but whom you don't find attractive. Those are "creeps" and guys who risk sexual harassment charges, as the following clip humorously shows:




Recap:

If you are in a bad mood and think I'm being a d*ckhead: No, I am not. Just switch the roles in your head and imagine it would be girls making advances. This also shows why "game" is for the very most part nonsensical (with the exception of some basic issues which I wouldn't even want to call "game" like confidence) because you surely don't think that an otherwise unattractive girl would get a hot guy by certain routines or "techniques". Sometimes you see a hot guy with an ugly dumpling, though, but those are guys who seemingly don't know what they are worth or who are afraid to approach girls they really find hot. Of course, in this case the confident dumpling might be able to "game" her way into his pants.

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The Cult of Real Social Dynamics

I received some interesting feedback to my recent article in which I describe the unethical and (borderline?) fraudulent techniques Real Social Dynamics (RSD) is using to sell Ozzie’s “Physical Game Book”.

First, a guy named JT commented:

It's really a joke at this point. I was at the RSD free seminar awhile back and Tyler himself was poking fun at it, so whatevs.

It is too bad that the joke is on the RSD fanboys.

I replied:

You are asking, "So, whatever?" but are you even aware of the implications?

You basically say that Tyler went up on stage and communicated something like "You know, we think our customers are complete idiots and not only that, we also give a sh*t about business ethics, that's why we use those fraudulent techniques. Isn't that totally cool?"

...and then the crowd cheers and thinks Tyler is a genius. One Asberger's patient might even say to his neighbor, "Oh, gee, I wish I were as unstifled as Tyler."

But it’s not that shadiness is something RSD adopted in recent weeks. My buddy JuiceTerry sent me a couple of classic links he had dug up on the website Rip Off Report. By the way, RipOff Report is run by a scammer, too. Check Salty Droid’s article RipOff Report Report for coverage (the guy running RipOff Report deletes negative reviews if you PAY him).

However, RSD decided not to pay RipOff Report to delete the negative reviews, so there’s still some entertainment to be had.

Please note that those are comparatively old reports --- one was updated in 2009 though --- , but you can find plenty of more recent negative reviews online if you just look around a bit. Sadly, RSD is hardly the exception here.

Exhibit #1:
Report: Real Social Dynamics (Real Social Dynamics - RSD Sucks Ripoff Internet)

At one point in the night every student was with Christophe and I realized no one had any idea where Jlaix or Mike were. They had been gone at least half an hour. I asked Christophe where they were and he didn't know so he had the other students open sets while he and I went out on a mission to find them. We went upstairs and found them in a corner laughing with drinks in their hands and having a good time.

Christophe started screaming at them and they replied that they were opening sets for students. There were clearly no students around them or even on the same floor as them and there were clearly no girls near them. At the end of the night when we debriefed one of the students flipped out that Mike and Jlaix were gone so long and Mike replied that he was doing demos then the student yelled out “Bulls**t!” and they had nothing to say back.

These debriefs were all held in the same pizza place which was a very public setting were people could hear us talk about game. That night one guy who was not in the workshop and was eating at the pizza place yelled out “I have a question” to Jlaix and Jlaix responded “Yes, you're fat”. The guy, who was about twice Jlaix's size, then charged at Jlaix and shoved him in the chair he was sitting in so hard that Jlaix got knocked right into the wall and broke the chair he was sitting in into 3 pieces.

(…)

Like the rest of the days, the other students were pushed into sets and didn't do anything else the first half of this day. When we got there Mike saw that the college he attends UCLA had a close football game on TV so he took some time out to watch it and not pay any attention to the students. He was by himself at the bar watching a football game.

(…)

Next set of girls Mike and Jlaix talked to were 2 girls. I was right next to them the whole time. Mike talked to his girl for a few minutes then she started losing interest and turned the other direction. For whatever reason the girls left 10 minutes into the conversation. Jlaix talked to another girl for about 5 minutes and then she left. She ran to her friends saying “ewww. That guy said he would do ----- if I kissed him so I left.” At the end of the night none of the instructors sets were going that well. Jlaix ended up talking to a girl that was approximately 5'5” and 250 lbs. All Christophe could say was “she's not sleeping in our room tonight”.

(…)


So here is where I put in my opinion. I'd say the instructors skill level was very low. I honestly have friends who on their worst nights still do better than any of the instructors were doing which made me very unsatified. Christophe goes in high energy on the girls he talks to and never drops it which I thought was totally a beginner's mistake. I don't think any of the instructors were good enough to be teaching guys how to get women. Also, expect to take s**t from the instructors.

They know that 99% of the guys who take these workshops are wimps and don't stand their ground so they take full advantage of this. On the third night I really didn't want to go to the Apartment bar for the third night in a row because I wanted to go to a nice venue and see the instructors talk to really hot women. On the third day Mike said we could go someone nice if all the students agreed.

Well, all the students agreed then Mike said how only the instructors know which place is best for the students. The real reason the instructors wanted to go the Apartment bar was because Mike and Jlaix wanted cheap drinks. Every night they drank and Jlaix even mentioned to me about how cool it was that they had $2 St. Pauly Girl beer.

Overall I think the students got very little value out of the workshop. All most of them did was go into set for a few minutes and then leave. Another things the instructors do is say that they make barely any money off of these workshops and that they just do it for the students which is completely off.

The CEO Nick wears $800 D & G shoes from what I've heard and I know someone else who saw the other CEO Tyler (Owen) with 4 full shopping bags of clothes in his hands after shopping at Melrose in L.A. which is extremely expensive. After the workshop I talked to Tyler about the issues I had with the workshop and he said he was going to call some of the students to verify it and get back to me but he never did, even after I tried to contact him several times after.

Exhibit #2:
Report: Real Social Dynamics (Real Social Dynamics ripoff false advertising frauds scam artists West Hollywood California)

Third, none of what they did was objectively result-oriented. Almost every approach would consist of me going up to a group, stating a conversational opening line or story, and then the instructor I was with would come to us 30 seconds later and continue the conversation. Afterwards the instructors would try to drive the conviction into me that the girls “were so interested in you” based on even a frivolous small glance or hesitation on their part which could have signified many different things. Then the cycle repeated.

Fourth, the course was unorganized. On the second day Nick Kho and another instructor gave me the first lecture based on a ‘cheat sheet' they handed out. This document was filled with abbreviations, acronyms, and incomplete sentences that assumed that the reader had a knowledge of what all these meant. Through the lecture, he would explain once what they signified, but afterwards did not volunteer to go through it with us again. Furthermore, I was delayed three times on a time span of two months in excess of the original time I planned on taking it.

By the end of the course, not only did my attitude or knowledge of social dynamics not change at all, but on the contrary, after seeing a lack of both professionalism and effectiveness on the instructors' behalf, my beliefs in socializing worsened. I can honestly say that I am both worse off and monetarily down after taking this class. They did not demonstrate mastery of the skills they offer to teach. They are frauds with cunning advertising. I did not see any results on their behalf or my own.

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Badboy likes Escorts?

There are some funny stories being spread around about Badboy. For instance, as I have heard from people who have attended a PUA summit in Prague, he was spotted around the red-light district, and when questioned, he “confessed” that his new game consisted of trying to fuck prostitutes for free. This does stretch my imagination somewhat, and probably yours, too. Anyway, I’m just reporting.

But one of the cool things of being known for calling the bluff on the community is that people send me stuff I never would have discovered myself, such as Badboy’s recent newsletter, which does not only use the complete lyrics of two songs without permission or copyright notice (someone tell Eminem’s lawyers that his “Shake That” is being duplicated in there), but some really hilarious stuff too.

Here is how Badboy’s newsletter starts:

And this is how it ends:

Have a good look at the previous image, and now compare it to this one:

Incidentally, Badboy's image it is the same as the one BodyMiracle uses. Now you might wonder what kind of company this is --- it is an escort agency for porn stars! This may now make some people wonder what Badboy does with the money he makes from his bootcamps. Oh, wait, I bet he'll tell those escorts to come to his hotel and then he might try to "game" them into fucking them for free...

Also, think about what else you could get for the amount of cash you’d have to plunk down for "pickup training". On BodyMiracle, most of the escorts go for $800/30min or $1600/1h. So for the same amount of money a “bootcamp” would cost you, you could bang three award winning pornstars, and maybe you’d even get a package deal. Just think of it, if you are so inclined, you could either spend 30 minutes with an award winning porn star(let), or, and maybe for some people this is the better deal, you pay roughly the same amount to talk to Vin DiCarlo on the phone for 90 minutes.

It's your choice.

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