The Great Manosphere Invasion of Russia (Part IV)

Onward to part four, comrades!

One big theme was of course the mystical pussy paradise, which is supposed to exist off the beaten track somewhere deep in Russia. Regular women don't do if for those guys. Instead, they fantasize about getting pornstars, as was pointed out by a commenter to part III of this ongoing report. In addition, the guys seem to overly confident. What struck me as downright absurd was how much of a sure thing they thought going to Russia is. Not having been there, they make the wildest demands:

A lot of information can be deduced from these pics, like for example in Cheboksary, there are some nice looking girls, but there really aren't many blonde girls. For those of us who like girls with a particular look, your site is gold. Keep up the good work.

So, to reiterate: the girls have to meet all kinds of criteria, but those dudes don't think they should have to bring anything to the table besides their "white god factor". This reminds me of the PUA bullshitters who claim that "looks don't matter", yet on the other hand only want to bang "10s". Exploring this topic in more detail would be worthy of another post, though.

At one point, comparisons between guy who are "slaying pussy" in the Dominican Republic were drawn:

just read this entire thread and boy this is looking like a truly epic adventure in the making if we do make it there with 3-4 hardcore guys from here who have their shits together. I love the idea of getting together say in early Sept 2013 and meeting in say Moscow or Ste Pets and from there, get on the Trans Siberia train and then once in the selected city, we could rent/or buy a cheap car/van and go sexplore the region otherwise, we'd get bored to death in some of these shit holes. Depending on how many of us would go there, we could then decide to either get one sick pad, say a luxury 3-4 bedroom penthouse in the best/poshest area in town and share the costs.
I'm really looking forward for this and I'm sure with the well travelled guys who will be part of this it will be a blast. Add to this the local expertise of BB and it will be truly epic that it will DWARF anything the boys in the DR can do...

The back story is something along the lines of: a couple of guys from Roosh's forum went to the Dominican Republic and banged hookers there. It wasn't quite spelled out like that but you don't exactly have to be Einstein to figure that out. The Russian crew, though, doesn't seem to realize at all that you simply pay for whores in the Dominican Republic. The girls ask for cab money or a "tip" or whatever other pretense, but it's still prostitution. This has nothing to do with "game" or any kind of imperialist fantasy whatsoever.

So, what do you have to do if you just know that you're going to bang one Russian pornstar after another in an oasis like Murmansk? Of course you're going to learn the language:

Yeah, i have started learning the language too, maybe we can get rotation groups going like the DR boys, anyone up from mid-december 2013? it's the only time i'll be able to come but i'm really interested on doing this.

By the way, if you want to learn Russian fast, try this genius method:

I learned the alphabet and I have been watching youtube videos of song that have the russian and english lyrics on the screen at the same time. That and learning the 1000 most common words, and phrases. This is what helped me learn spanish so fast. Well that and babylon. I think Rosetta stone is the biggest waste of time personally.

I'm sure you'll be perfectly fluent afterwards.

As a first goal, Novosibirsk was declared to be the dream destination:

Until someone comes up with something better, than Novosibirsk it is it. I am sure there are many siberian villages and towns we can explore also. One thing I found about even with just my brother here in Natal, Brazil, a city of even 800,000 is not enough for 2 or 3 players, especially when there are other foreigners around.

I can see a new branch of applied mathematics emerging: player math. More seriously, though, that guy involuntarily gave an interesting insight into the player psyche since he factored in the abysmally low success rate of the PUA crowd. I guess you really need to live in a city of 3 million if you have to approach 1,000 women to get one date.

Novosibirsk is getting a lot of love,let's find some examples of apartments in the town and prices. It seems like a decent place,big and with plenty of entertainment options. I think we can take it for granted that the quality there is pretty epic. I agree we should pencil it in as our destination. If anyone has other suggestions for a location then by all means speak up and we can debate it's merits too.

One guy was wondering whether they could find a place like this in "2nd tier Russia". I found it quite amusing that the description of that place (in Spain) said:

We don't want crazy young kids or older guys staying here. If you plan to party here and annoy the neighbors this is not the apartment for you.

The Roosh V troupe, though, seems to be a mixture of exactly those two demographics.

Oh, 007, are you watching that thread too? Those guys now want to go undercover and might need your help.

Does anyone into this play an instrument? I'm a singer songwriter and being "a band" would be good cover.

Finally, a healthy does of reality:

The sad thing is that we have 273 posts without boots on the ground. The DR guys went with guns blasting. It is a harder mission but my word----- if Russian Embassy in Ecuador does not intefere with, I will be there with guitar, muscles and my mediocre Russian in Siberia in August.

Of course, the big difference is that in the Dominican Republic, you can bang hookers all day for a modest "tip", so it was a much more attractive proposition to middle-aged guys whom no woman in the West wants to touch with a ten-foot pole. Oh, sorry, I forgot that it's just the guys who don't want to deal with Western women because they are all so shitty. I wonder what would happen if someone explained to them how "ego protection" works.

One guy later on really cracked me up. He was one of the earliest contributors, and guess what he did after about 300 posts in the thread:

Ok I have looked at the map of Russia, it is the largest country in the world and Siberia is huge. 
Driving to the destination would take forever from Germany and like someone rightly mentioned earlier, tough when you are with "strangers".
My question is, how much is it to fly to Siberia from the UK? It isn't something you see advertised too often.

So, he was fantasizing about Russia before without even bothering to look at a map. Oh, the stupidity!

Of course, reality TV got revealed to be a huge influence too:

Just curious does anyone here watch the show Departures? It's about 2 Canadian guys who travel the world and just take in all different cultures. This is originally what inspired me too travel and originally led me to this site.
They did an Episode on Siberia before and it's the thing that originally inspired me to visit Russia. For those who haven't been there I'm presuming this would be a very good representation of what to expect there.
(...)
Yeah, another funny part when he says "if you ever want celebrity status come to city-x and you'll be greeted like you've never been greeted before."

The first response was:

I like where this is going.

So do I.

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The Great Manosphere Invasion of Russia (Part III)

I had to take a bit of a break from covering the collective tragedy the Roosh V forum crew was getting into. The amount of bullcrap I can stomach is quite limited, and the first two posts of this series exceeded my quota. Anyway, where were we?

Right, after collectively enjoying fantasies of a pussy paradise somewhere in the hinterlands of Russia, and gathering all kinds of information, our heroes already see themselves swimming in pussy, thanks to their self-declared "white god factor". Any notion of precaution or rationality was quickly thrown in the wind. It seemed that nothing could stop those young adventurers, but a surprise event led to a major setback. BrownBear, who took it upon himself to meticulously research Russia's B- and C-cities, surprisingly called it quits:

I wish I could go with you guys...the heart has been broken (...) She is a 10 to me and I moved to a different city and it's over. But life goes on, I have no regrets I'm very young still.

So, all the while he was fantasizing not only about banging women by the dozen in Russia, he has also been ogling some random plain Jane in his home country, and now she's gone. The immaturity is staggering. With BrownBears withdrawal, some well-kept secrets where shared with the Roosh V forum, like how one would "pipeline" girls well before you arrive. This is how it works, according to BrownBear:

You can just make an account on mamba.ru and start talking to girls in cities that you want to go to. Pick who you like and use google translator to talk to them.

There is absolutely nothing that could go wrong with this genius idea.

It seemed that the Russian Roosh V members were concerned that this army of international playboys would actually get anywhere with the girls:

To my russian brothers who say that I'll "ruin our women" please tell me why does it matter who they have fun with? Maybe we will begin to value how wonderful they are and actually provide them with what they deserve.

LOL. I guess that's what you get when you take a collective frenzy seriously. This reminds me of those moronic threads you frequently see popping up on forums all over the internet that go along the lines of "what if...", with the if-part highly unrealistic. For some strange reason, there is never a shortage of guys who offers their opinion on how they'd invest a million dollars, where they'd go on vacation if they had all the time and money in the world, or which porn star they'd like to fuck. The shallowness on the Internet goes surprisingly deep if you care to explore it.

It's difficult to see whether the thread starter, Vorkuta, is just a troll or actually serious. Witness the following exchange. Guy 1 writes:

You ever been to Abakan BB? It seems to have a lot of boxes ticked: poor provincial city,university,airport,Asian looking chicks but the population is very low at only 165,000. Something about the city just makes me think it is full of slutty chicks willing to suck dick if it offers a way out.

Guy 2 responds:

Are you tempted? That would be absolutely hardcore although going there could end up in you getting a few slaps off the local gopniki. I would thread with caution in going to these small places. In larger cities, you can be more anonymous and smash more women without anybody knowing.

But Vorkuta thinks absolutely nothing of it:

I agree that the large cities are best for quantities but I like the challenge and rawness of these off the track provincial holes. I think the best solution is to be in a big city but one that is only an hour or two from some smaller towns so you can live in comfort but delve into the rawer towns when you want to. To be fair,I guess pretty much any city has its satellite towns so it should not be hard to find.

It seems that once you put some guys together and let them "brainstorm", stupidity will have no bounds. First, it was just about a pussy paradise, but then some dude put up a picture of a chick from one of those sites where Russian women sell them off to basically the highest bidder. Here's the chick:

The dude asks,

How accessible is this kind of quality, as a foreigner with limited Russian?
Keep in mind that the makeup and studio lighting add half a point or more to her appearance. 

Well, Sherlock, on the site where you found that picture, that girl hopes or hoped to find some rich Westerner to marry her and pay her $10k+ a month pocket money, yet you seriously think that you'd get the same if you're broke and go to some random Russian city in the middle of nowhere!? Those women want to cash in their looks but, hey, maybe they'd also get with some random dude in exchange for a quarter-ounce of semen. This somehow reminds of some of the absurd fads in the PUA community like "stripper game" and "hooker game" where the PUAs claimed to teach you how to fuck those women. I guess it takes a special kind of stupid to pay $2.5k for a bootcamp with a guy like Vin DiCarlo who then pays fifty bucks or so to a stripper so that the client gets a quick hand job in the strip club. But I digress. Let's get back to the story.

BrownBear, who revealed to live in some Russian city of 70,000 and who is heartbroken over his "personal 10", responded:

I don't know to be honest, depends on who you are and how you represent yourself, but from my experience I haven't had problems with women like that (I'll show you pictures if we ever meet up) and I've lived in America for a long time, but you probably should learn russian more though!

Right. I bet in his small city he has to fight to get those women away from him.

Part IV will be up tomorrow, where we'll continue our exploration of the collective "mighty whitey" fantasy of the Roosh V forum crowd.

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The Great Manosphere Invasion of Russia (Part II)

In Mark Twain's The Adventures of Tom Sawyer one episode consists of Tom and his friends trying to become "pirates", so they leave the village behind to live off mother nature. It quickly turns out that their romantic notions were quite mistaken. One passage describes how they feasted on some meager fish:

They fried the fish with the bacon, and were astonished; for no fish had ever seemed so delicious before. They did not know that the quicker a fresh-water fish is on the fire after he is caught the better he is; and they reflected little upon what a sauce open-air sleeping, open-air exercise, bathing, and a large ingredient of hunger make, too.

At this point you can probably see the parallels to the Roosh V forum crew already. They are starved for food, er, pussy, and anything would do. We left them when they were collectively fantasizing about being "the only ticket in town" in some remote corner of Russia. What happened next?

Well, what happened was the equivalent of Tom Sawyer and his crew merely seeing some fish in the distance, and starting to salivate. Some dude dug out pictures of "Club Amsterdam" in Volgograd, which showed scenes like this:

Party on, bros!

Two black dudes about to have a threesome each...

I don't see anything that's remotely close to a pussy paradise, to be honest. Even worse, going through the photo stream of that club reveals that the quality of the women really isn't all that great:

Really makes you want to go to Volgograd right away, doesn't it?

I guess perceptions change if you believe that any girl there would fuck you just because you're from the USA. How has this spiel been working out for Roosh? Oh, wait... Quality isn't such a great concern for the Roosh V forum crowd, and people are falling over themselves to prematurely celebrate their victory. Apparently they thought they really had found a treasure.

Russia-nauts: Houston we have a problem.
Houston:What's that?
Russia-nauts: We don't want to come back to the whales of Earth.

The nighclub pics were really encouraging.

One pussy paradise isn't enough. The existence of another one was postulated:

Just wait guys, there are better cities where the women are even hotter and the men are more ugly and dress like shit!

Many of the alleged proofs for the existence of god are conducted along the same lines: x is true because I say so. But where then are all the hot Russian women hiding? Forum member "BrownBear" made use of his highly-developed analytical skills:

I already collected most of the links for everynight club (Except the huge cities I didn't put all the places for them) in over 75 cities now I'm just looking over each night club and reading reviews/gathering pictures/videos/hours of operation etc... I'll do it my way..

President I haven't only collected nightclub data, but pubs,bars,restaurants, grills and then I will do hotels. 

Imagine what working out a similar amount of time would have done for him and his chances with the women in his city. He wouldn't even have to travel to Volgograd in the end. He also spoke of "turning this into an app". I see, it's all about passive income! He eventually started his own forum at http://russianexpatnightlife.com/ Sadly, he forgot to take precautions against spamming, which is why there are tens of thousands of posts by spam bots on there. Way to go!

I found it quite amazing that those guys have apparently never seen women in their life, judging from the comments to the pictures of those thoroughly mediocre looking chicks:

I have spent the last few days looking at those nightclub pics, all I can say is WOW!

Sadly, he seemed serious, just like some other dude a little later:

Those photos are incredible. It's like a professional level stage show. The girls are unreal. Russian chicks combine refined intellect and luscious animality. They are so hot.

I wonder how he managed to assess the intellect of some random chicks on pictures.

Speaking of refined intellects, some other guy chimed in:

I wouldn't put too much emphasis on what country you are from. 90% these girls don't know Brazil from Mexico and many think Canada is part of the United States. 90% of girls know nothing about geography! Fucking Zero and don't give a shit. They will judge you by how you present yourself!

Not knowing shit, yet having strong opinions about everything. Why aren't those guys pursuing a career in business or politics?

Thread starter Vorkuta had even more genius ideas to make "pussy slaying" even easier. Heck, pussy may just slay itself in the end.

I think we should chip in and buy an old Lada over there to use as the RVF pussy hunting mobile,just think of the kinds of places we'll be able to hunt in if we have our own set of wheels!

I guess if you hand the valet the keys to your Lada, all the girls will just flash their tits for you. By the way, this is what a (well-kept) old Lada looks like:

The new number plate will be PZY-SLR 69

Going back to a more serious topic, sex tourist Neil Skywalker warns a black dude not to take the risks lightly:

As for being black in Russia: Maybe it works out in cities like Moscow but I wouldn't go rural if I were you. Once I passed through Moscow I haven't seen one black person in 7 weeks of traveling in Russia and Kazakhstan. This might make you special and some girls might like you for it but it also makes you an easy target for Gopniks with no future besides getting drunk on vodka early in the morning and who have no problem cutting your face up with a broken beer bottle just because you're talking to "their" girls.
I had to deal with them more than a few times while walking down the street or in trains. They could already target me as a foreigner by my non-slavic face and brown eyes. Imagine how you are gonna stand out.
You're welcome to try it and I would admire you for your guts but you've been warned .

So, finally a guy who has been in Russia. All objections were quickly discarded, with BrownBear offering to, "become a personal guard for RVF members"


Delusion after delusion:

Yes that is why it is wise to be in a group, when we set up shop in a 2nd or 3rd tier city in Russia. You should come once we have picked the city. We can pay you to be our english teacher and buy you drinks when we go out, since you will be watching our backs. If Neil, who is a white dutchman, got some harrasment, I am sure we will be targets once we start slaying the local pussy.

When another guy wanted to tell the those would-be adventures that they are merely fantasizing, there was no reaction either:

When I was in the Ukraine, many guys that were not players came expecting a poossy paradise . They ended up sitting in hotel lobbies talking to other men. Girls are not just sitting around waiting for some foreign dude to show up to jump on his dick. So you better come with your game tight or else it could be a cold winter or maybe cool summer! You have to give her a reason to want to date you, DHV.

Apart from the game and DHV bullshit, it's a realistic assessment. After all, how are those guys who have a really hard time getting laid back home going to get laid in a country where they don't speak the language and have zero interest in the culture or anything else. So, they'd either sit in their hotel rooms or the hotel lobby, while back home everything sounded like a done deal, like that:

I would like it to have a) Asian girls, and b) accessible by airport. Really we need to take Partizan's advice and aim for cities 800K and up. I don't care how good the pussy is, you will get bored if there is nothing else there to do, however I will not be able to spend 2 months there. I mentioned some city names upthread.

He doesn't care "how good the pussy is" --- as if it is guaranteed that all Russian women he'll come across will throw themselves at him.

Part III will start with a surprise twist. Stay tuned!

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The Great Manosphere Invasion of Russia (Part I)

Russia is seemingly invincible. In 1812, Napoleon tried to invade Russia. He suffered a great defeat. In 1941, the Nazis undertook "Operation Barbarossa", the largest military operation in history. The Germans never recovered from their losses, and it was a prime cause for losing WWII. Of course, after WWII was over, the cold war began. Eventually, the Berlin Wall came down, the USSR lost some of its territory. Yet, Russia is still strong, and growing stronger.

However, the fate of Russia may turn this autumn. Napoleon has failed. Hitler was defeated. But as it turned out, the USA aren't quite done yet. As it so happened, Roosh V's goons have been plotting an invasion of Russia and intend to right many wrongs. They have been denied pussy in their home country, so they are now going to the Russian hinterlands and take what is rightfully theirs.

In a perfect exemplification of the Mighty Whity trope Roosh V forum member Vorkuta calls his brothers to rise up. His first post perfectly sets the tone for the train wreck that is unfolding over 22 pages of forum posts:

I think we have all at times imagined moving to a shit hole in deepest Russia,somewhere way off the beaten track and spend a few months using our white god factor to the max to bang a stream of hot local women. Well,time is ticking and so that dream can either remain just that,a dream or it can be put into action and followed through on. Of course nothing is stopping any of us going solo and renting an apartment in some random town and seeing if pussy paradises still exist. However I think it would be a lot more fun to do it with a few like minded RVF members. These cities are not getting easier,they will become more difficult and with Russia hosting the World Cup in 2018 etc. the place is going to change. Let's get in whilst being foreign still means something.

Not a man of modesty, he lays out his vision:

So the plan would be simple: we choose a city somewhere in Russia,somewhere off the track,and rent a plush apartment in the centre of town and then spend a month or two or three in an alcohol and Viagra induced debauched daze where we work our way through the town's and nearby town's women. It would not be for lightweights,no guys looking for 'relationships',just constant conquest seeking adventures in random dodgy night clubs,suburban apartments and university dormitories. 

At this point, the protagonist would normally wake up, take a shower and have breakfast, but, no, this wasn't a dream. Instead, it was going to become reality:

The idea as I would envision it would be to have say three or four guys as the
main advance party who rent an apartment and are based in it for a month or two and then other members with less time can come out to visit for a weekend/week or so to experience the delights. I think that as a team we would be unstoppable and encourage each other to push the boundaries of what is possible as opposed to when you're alone and sometimes can't be assed going out. We would kill it out there,or maybe just get killed. Either way,adventure is guaranteed. This is once in a lifetime stuff,something to tell your Russian grandchildren about. 

Please note the military language.

This is the kind of post you would read, laugh, and move on with your life. However, Roosh V's forum is located in an alternative reality. Within hours, other men awoke from their slumber and wanted to join "Vorkuta" on his mission. Pledges to learn Russian are made, and promising cities singled out. Early contenders were Krasnoyarsk, Omsk, and Novosibirsk. The more women the better, it seems. But of course it would be off the beaten path because otherwise "being foreign" won't mean a thing.

I had a hard time believing those guys are actually serious. One dude chimed in:

I like the idea but think it's OK to have LTR guys in on it and here's why:
Players will benefit from having Betas like me around, because then the womens' fantasy of LTR will help make them more willing to ONS.

You have to stand in awe of this high level of critical thinking.

Of course, the idea of the pussy paradise is popular among those guys:

Asian Russia is the last untapped well of pristine beautiful women. But like anything great, it would be difficult for the lone wolf traveler to pull off.
It would be the first time RVF members would go together to a place......like Cortes headed with his men to Mexico.

So, you think they're hiding 5,000 young beautiful Russian girls there who aren't allowed to interact with any men, just with members of Roosh V's forum once they finally show up? Don't worry, dude, if you don't get laid in Russia, you just have to convert to some other religion and, with some luck and ambition on your part, you'll be rewarded with 72 virgins after your death. 72 virgins, dude!

Of course, the bible of bullshitting, Tim Ferriss' 4 Hour Work Week, is familiar to those guys as well:

We are all responsible for the community except the above have been voted in who provide oversight. We pool our money and come up with various ideas for passive and extra income . Then from there we slay poon

Just imagine that! Move to Krasnoyarsk, shack up with legendary Roosh V forum members, fuck every woman in town, and make millions off Google Ad Words. This sounds like a dream.

Objections were quickly discarded:

Some of you guys are overly fuckin paranoid. All this is gonna be is a small group of guys living together who party a lot. Not different from a frat house or any of those tools on RSDN who live together trying to reinvest a new project hollywood. All the discussed cities have over a million people so being recognized too often shouldn't be an issue."

As the thread went on, there were some surprising revelations. One guy who claimed to have learnt some Russian wrote:

This thread is getting me so excited. I learned the Russian Alphabet and numbers a month ago, it's time to start puting in some time.

Of course, if you are a white foreigner and know the alphabet, then nothing will go wrong. He can already ask all the willing young girls for their age and if they're older than 18, quickly send them away. I've got to say that I admire that dude's efficiency. Always keep your eyes on the ball! Always.

He followed up with:

Russian is a tough language. In a month I will be in Phuket, and I want to use my crappy russian to show the Russian tourists how I appreciate their culture and sth haha. So that is my current motivation as Thailand is one of the main tourist destinations for Russians

This is symptomatic for Roosh and his followers. They have an incredibly limited horizon. Instead of subcultures, Roosh just sees "hipsters", and any kind of culture can be quickly ignored. But, hey, he's got a cock, she's got a pussy, so let's just get it on, right! Right?

As I dug deeper into this thread, I realized that my parallels to some military operations in the past weren't far-fetched. Just look at this descendent of Karl von Clausewitz:

I think you guys should rent apartments in different sections of town. Having twelve foreigners in one complex is going to look suspicious, and drop your exotic factor. Start in your original apartment, and slay pussy in that area for a month. Then switch apartments with another member and work on that side of town. 
Take notes where you were pulling, and pass them off to the next guy during the move. You guys can cover more ground this way, get involved in more social circles, and bring the other members in accordingly.
Set this up right and you guys can help each other get laid without a lot of effort.

Just like Hitler, though, the leader of the pack, Vorkuta, is severely deluded. Not only does he imagine a bunch of random losers from the Internet "cleaning up the town". No, even on their train ride to whatever city deep in Russia they are going to, they'll be going at it:

I see an inevitable 'RVF Trans-Siberian Fuckfest' happening. Seven days of debauched train travel from Moscow to Vladivostok.
Russian trains are well set up for game: all compartments are mixed sex so you end up sharing long journeys with women. In the day time passengers stand in the coridoors chatting and gazing out the window so you just have to walk the length of the train and you get talking to people. Trains have restaurant cars serving alcohol so you can insta-date to the restaurant car. Every carriage has a Provodnitsa who looks after you,stokes the samovar etc. Sometimes you can be lucky and get a hot one - she has her own private bedroom. Even if you only end up sharing with a babushka in your compartment,by tbe time you've shared your drink and food with her for a couple days you'll have bonded to the point where she will want to introduce you to her granddaughter when you reach your destination. Fuck planes,trains are the way to go in the FSU.

Sure, that's totally what it's going to be like.

Support only grew as the thread got longer:

Anyone got any data on how much this would cost? This sounds like a fucking solid idea

Yes, it's so fucking solid that you need a deluded "leader" who tells you how incredibly convinced he is:

I know people are saying Novosibirsk but my hunch is that loads of foreigners have been before for study or tourism etc. I think we need a large town that isn't on the Trans-Siberian. What about Syktyvkar or Kirov? Bratsk or Barnaul? Maybe the best option is a place in the Urals from where we can hit different towns on the weekends. Personally speaking I don't need cinemas and nice restaurants or museums. I just want a run down shit hole where we will be the only ticket in town. I want us to walk into a club and the place falls silent as everyone turns to stare at the foreigners. From there we will go to work. This is 100% possible to find,I'm convinced of it.

On one side, you have people who have completely lost touch with reality, on the other, some people tried to point out some potential problems:

Everything generally takes twice as long as you think it will and will be half as successful as you think.
That doesn't mean to be pessimistic, but adjust your parameters and plan better so you actually achieve what you want.
Right now the elephant in the room is visas. We need to find out a successful, repeatable visa application procedure. I might be wrong but I think the new visa rules for Americans may not require registration in Russia, a good thing.

What followed? Of course:

you are pessimistic. Go execute your DHVs while I'm pulling the chick from under your nose.

What happened next? Pictures of pretty plain looking chicks in some night club in Volgograd were posted, and the guys got really, really excited.

Stay tuned for part II.

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Manosphere Myths: The Pussy Paradise

The manosphere is obsessed with many things, most of them entirely imaginary. One of the strongest collective delusions in that corner of the Internet is the belief that right where you live, the women suck, but that somewhere else they literally throw themselves at you just because you happen to have a pulse. It's the myth of the pussy paradise, namely that in some other place the women will literally throw themselves at any (foreign) man.

Roosh V himself is a prime example. I don't want to bash the poor guy this time, but instead talk about the people on his forum. They think that it's only the fault of the women in their area if they get rejected over and over. This must be the case because their idol Roosh V himself says that the women in [insert random country] suck. Salvation is to be found elsewhere, so Roosh travels all over the world, and doesn't really get anywhere with girls, and his forum members aspire to be like him. They don't get laid at home either but believe that in some faraway land things will be much different.


On Roosh's forum you'll find thread after thread after thread were those guys are wondering where in the world the women are beautiful and willing, and which country they should take a vacation in. At the moment, though, they are panicking because the EU plans to crack down on sex tourism.

Let's just be blunt and say it like it is: yes, in some unfortunate circumstances your environment can severely hinder your chances with women, simply because there aren't enough around. Just look at demographics. For instance, in the US there is a surplus of women on the East Coast, while there is an enormous surplus of men on the West Coast. You may have seen this map from National Geographic before:

I hear relatively frequently from guys in the Bay Area who complain about a dearth of women. Given the demographics, especially if you working in the technology sector, this is not an illusion. It simply boils down to a trade-off. Yes, career prospects may be better in a technology hub, but you may also limit your life in other areas. Presumably, you wouldn't want to spent your entire life working on an oil rig either. The money is good, though, so I can understand the motivation.

However, in most places there are enough single men and single women out there, and meeting someone new shouldn't be a challenge. Of course, it's necessary to take a realistic look at yourself, and that's the kind of advice many women should take to heart as well. If you don't get anywhere with women in your city, it's most likely not the fault of the women. With the exception of sex tourism hotspots, it won't get easier abroad. This is especially true if you think you can spend a week in, say, Norway or Denmark, and find your future bride there.

Sex tourism is based on economic inequality. There is a good reason why there are Russian mail-order brides, but not Swedish or Norwegian ones. The latter countries are highly developed, and you as a foreigner will most likely have a lower economic status. Please don't cite skewed GDP per capita figures now. Those figures are high for the US as well, but the average American is much worse off than the average Dane or Swede. So, simply being from the US won't quite cut it there.

Sure, you can look "exotic" abroad, which is a benefit of some races, but not all. In general, though, you will do as well or badly abroad than you'll do at home. As a sex tourist or a regular tourist in a sex tourism hotspot, though, people will only view you as a walking wallet --- if stories from people living in Thailand are to be believed. If getting laid in a third-world country is your goal, dear manosphere members, then please don't kid yourself that the women are easier or whatnot. You're simply paying for a service. In countries of a comparable standard of living, you will probably do worse because a local girl doesn't have much to gain by picking a random foreigner over a local guy. Inter-racial and inter-cultural marriages are still an exception, so please discount any anecdotal evidence. Lastly, in countries in which the standard of living is higher than in your home countries, you will fight a severe uphill battle. Ask Roosh how well he has done in Denmark and Sweden, for instance.

So, where is the pussy paradise, then? Well, if you discount sex tourism, then there is none, but if you are a (potential) sex tourist, then you're simply buying the women, which you could do basically anywhere else as well. Even right where you live.

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Manosphere Myths: The Cock Carousel

If you read manosphere writers like Roosh or Heartiste/Roissy, you really wonder in which world they live in. It looks as if they describe some bizarre fantasy. As you may know, just like the seduction community beforehand, the manosphere believes in the alpha-beta dichotomy. You're either an alpha with a harem of willing women, or you are a loser who doesn't get laid at all. A popular phrase in those circles is that 10 % of men fuck 90 % of the women, which directly relates to the myth of the cock carousel. It boils down to the following claims that are slightly exaggerated for effect:

a) 90 % of women are sluts and fuck all the time.
b) Most men don't get laid at all. There's just 10 % of them who fuck all the women.
c) Once women are past 30, their "sexual market value" immediately drops to zero, and they all panic, hoping to find some "beta chump" who will marry her.

Since Roosh and Heartiste write for the constantly sexually frustrated guy, they have to give him good reasons why not getting laid isn't so bad. They do attract a lot of people who have barely any success with women, and Roosh's own dismal track record appeals to them. If their idol hardly ever gets laid, then their own situation can't be so bad, after all. Of course, it's important that the typical PUA/manosphere follower believes that he is part of a "silent majority."


Of course, if you look around, you realize that the world doesn't just consist of promiscuous women and thirty-somethings who think of nothing else but to get married. Yes, it is true that some women are promiscuous. However, if you are an "alpha" and bang a ton of chicks, it is not the case that you learn that they have all been with dozens of guys before. A lot of girls you'll meet will be fairly inexperienced. This is also reflected if you dig up statistics. With a count of sexual partners in the two-digit range, you're already a statistical outlier. Heck, even virginity beyond one's teenage years is not uncommon. In Western society, sex is all around you. Yet, this is just a fabricated illusion, and in reality, things are quite tame. Here, have a look at findings from a Durex study from 2010, based on a survey of 15 to 20 year-olds in Europe:

The mean value of sexual partners is not all that shocking. It's easy to look at extremes and think that they are representative of society. Yet, teen pregnancies are certainly not common, and neither is it common that a young woman fucks a different guy week after week. They get tired of that too.

Based on the "statistical sample" I took when I was playing the field, I can tell you that many girls are pretty insecure. They may have had a boyfriend or two, or maybe a one-night stand. As an amusing anecdote, I'll mention that once a girl said to me that I seem so experienced and certainly have been with many women. I then asked her how many women she thought I've been with, to which he replied, "Ummm... something like five or seven or so." In her world, this counted as "very many", but keep in mind that she had claimed to have been with three or four guys in her life. For girls who pursue relationships, those are plausible numbers.

The PUA community and the manosphere try to create an image of the polar opposite, though. They believe that women go out and party literally all the time, and are willing to have sex with any man as long as his "game" is good enough. The PUAs claim this because they want to sell their bullshit bootcamps, while the manosphere writers want you to think that all women are sluts. But let's just look at people who party hard for a moment. In my experience, this is only ever a temporary phase. There are plenty of people who never go to clubs, and instead meet their sexual partners through their social circle. (No, not on the street either, dear PUAs.)

You can literally see how often someone goes out. Only very few people manage to adopt to a subculture, and even in mainstream clubs plenty of people --- men and women --- have absolutely no clue how to dress. The reason is simply that they are out of touch with those environments. As consequence, most are just there and bascially invisible. Even if you go to "hipster" clubs, you'll notice that at best 10 % of the people really matter. The rest is just a backdrop. This isn't a value judgment. The guys can still be cool in their own way, and the girls attractive. However, just looking at them reveals that they probably don't go out a lot and if they dress up, they just half-assedly copy something from a recent music video or whatnot.

I do think that TV shows like Sex and the City have fucked up a lot of women, and made them pursue a lifestyle that wasn't in their best interest. Most women, however, are very aware of their biological limitations. If you have female friends, then you know that if they are single, finding a boyfriend is a very high priority, and if they are in a relationship, then they obsess about whether he is the "right" guy.

So, what about the "cock carousel" then? I see little truth in it. Most people lead very conservative lives, and prefer to have sex in committed relationships. If they are single, a long time may pass until they get laid. This, too, applies to men and women alike. Statistical outliers don't change anything. Women are normally very aware of their biological clock, meaning that they sooner or later will want to settle down. Yes, some women are a bit late, and may find themselves going after any half-decent man and hoping he'll take them.

The idea that a woman's "sexual market value" drops to zero once she's hit 30 is equally absurd. Sure, if she's overweight, uneducated, and crude, she'll have a hard time finding a mate, but it would be the same if she were 10 years younger and had the same negative attributes. Of course a woman's fertility goes down, which is why women, if they want to have kids, are under greater time pressure than men. Nonetheless, an attractive 20 year-old is quite likely to still be very attractive ten years later, just as an attractive 30 year-old guy can turn into a still good-looking 40-year old.

But why then do manosphere writers mention the problem with "sexual market value"? My suspicion is that the main purpose is to depict a revenge fantasy. They write for sexually frustrated men, and those should feel assured that even though they don't get laid right now, once all the women they lust after turn 30, those will become undesirable --- and thus they will get their revenge because then those women might pursue the "betas", who can then turn them down. In short, it's a complete fantasy, and if you spend some time thinking about it, it's just sad.

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Roosh V’s Weak Ego — A Case Study

Roosh V certainly likes to lash out. He denounces American women in general, thinks little of the many countries and cities where he didn’t really get anywhere, and is always quick to find an excuse for his lack of success. It seems whenever he doesn’t get laid yet again, it’s apparently because feminism and US-style materialism have finally taken over the entire country on the very day he arrived. This then makes Roosh construct an alternative reality in which Swedish girls are fat, Danes look like dogs, and where London sucks. Apparently he lives on a different planet than I do.

I do think there are just two reactions Roosh evokes in his readers, which also explains why he doesn’t get bashed so much online. Anybody who’s travelled a bit just immediately realizes that Roosh is full of shit and bitter because he doesn’t get laid. Those people then just move on. However, there is also the crowd of men who got burnt by the seduction community and proponents of game. Having learnt that the “cube” doesn’t magically make women spread their legs, and that Ross Jeffries-style hypnosis is a complete fabrication, they eventually realize that they have little to offer in terms of looks, status and money, basically all the things that according to “game” don’t matter. Instead of working hard to improve their position in life, those men then fantasize that there must be some pussy paradise somewhere on earth where Joe Below Average counts for something. Roosh V looks like the savior to them. He, too, didn’t get anywhere with women in the US, so in their mind he must be right! (Again, the problem is always the others, never they themselves.) I’m just sketching the problem in broad strokes, but I may expand on it in more detail in future posts. Yet, when I see Roosh writing that American men "chose homsexuality" so that they don't have to put up with the women, I can only shake my head:

A fellow American I met in my Belo Horizonte had an odd complaint about me: he said I talked “too much” about girls. I scratched my head because the only two safe topics that you can talk about with just about any guy in the world are sports and pussy. What else am I going to talk about? Art? Style? I wondered if he was homo.

You see, Roosh V isn't a particularly sophisticated fellow.

It’s not surprising that there are many sycophants around Roosh, like “G Manifesto”, the “pimp” who claims to wear Paul Smith suits, yet flies RyanAir and throws a childish tantrum when people point out the discrepancy between his persona and reality. I spent a couple of hours some weeks ago reading a couple of that dudes posts and was laughing so loudly that my Argentine Mastiff got scared, which doesn’t happen all that often. Anyway, some people challenged Roosh V on his own turf. One such guy is “IRT”, as Roosh and his followers call him, which is an acronym for “Indian Race Troll.” Roosh and his forum members seems to have quite a hard-on for him, and extensively crawled the Internet to dig up some information on him. Of course it was only natural that there are some inaccuracies. I followed some traces, and found it more than amusing that said guy seems to be living in three US states at the same time, and writes in vastly different styles. Then again, maybe the Roosh V forum meme took on a life on its own. While “IRT” used to refer to one particular person, these days any guy who might be Indian and dares to bring up issues of interracial dating in discussion gets linked to that persona.

The real “IRT”, though, kept marching on. In a trilogy of articles, “IRT” first attacked Roosh, calling him the biggest fraud in the dating/PUA business:

Nothing is ever truly his fault. In fact, according to him, most American women are mentally ill and unsuitable for dating. Simply because he cannot score any dates with them and has to go abroad and resort to sleeping with hookers, Roosh believes that American women are all undesirable, ugly, and unworthy of his attention (god be with whoever is worth it). Rather than embracing the fun in dating, getting with girls, and all that, he encourages all men to cheat on their wives and girlfriends and of course find excuses. You can’t get laid? It isn’t because you lack the skills, it is because all American women are just mean.

What “IRT” does is merely pointing out the obvious. I do think that his language is rather harsh, but so is Roosh’s when he is talking about, well, pretty much anything. In fact, these days Roosh seems to go straight for the lowest common denominator of the lowest of the Internet. Just think of his "race totem pole of attractiveness", or his piece on the "ugliest feminists of America". Sadly, Roosh isn’t just some dude sitting in his basement and dreaming up bullshit, like Roissy/Heartiste. Instead, he actively promotes a certain kind of lifestyle. At its core is one of the most absurd tenet of game, namely that you shouldn’t “put women on a pedestal”, yet everything Roosh and his followers seem to care about is how to get pussy, and be it just one meager “flag” in weeks of trying hard. The cognitive dissonance is beyond belief. 

I do think that the “lifestyle angle” is worse. Let’s hear “IRT” on the issue:

A lot of the information on the travel forum goes unchecked and majority of the time the forum members spend on bashing races, nationalities, bitching about the system, and spreading lies. Now to a lot of the informed, we can pick up on this but men who are just getting into game are often discouraged and misled. You are basically reading advice from men who had to resort to escorts and prostitutes their whole life. Majority of the advice is written without any credibility or validity. Another thing I have noticed is that the forum pushes limiting beliefs such as if you are a certain race you just cannot get laid at all which goes against the traditional values of game which my caveman lookalike topic of discussion pushes. Basically, Roosh and his forum buddies are pretty much walking contradictions.

Indeed, just as game gurus of yore preyed on the inexperienced, so does Roosh target people who have no reference experiences about seemingly anything. This also explains why a nutjob like “G Manifesto” doesn’t get laughed of Roosh V’s forum but instead enjoys great popularity. Just like “G Manifesto” is rolling in dough in his fantasy and flying Ryan Air in real life, so does Roosh V fuck hundreds of women in his mind, and in reality goes home empty-handed pretty much all the time. But what happens if you live in a fantasy world and someone like "IRT" points out the obvious?

I ended up reaching a conclusion in which I asked myself how can a man who talks about being an international player fail to get laid in Toronto? The answer to the question led to my conclusion. Roosh has hyped up his life online to be some sort of success story in which a man can blame his surroundings, ethnic appearance, and other things on the area alone, move to a new area and become a well respected playboy. The sad part of Roosh and his psychotic condition is the infection aspect. Roosh has become an infection to young men down on their luck that feel like their environment is the major issue. Such men will passionately defend Roosh without seeing the truth in front of them, there are men in their area having lots of success with women. These young men will become bitter, racist, bigoted, misogynist and blindly defend Roosh because he serves as their excuse and blinds them to the truth that there are many men in America experiencing success. If there are millions of men in America still having success, then the problem isn’t America, the problem is them.

I could have bolded the entire paragraph. Well, what happens when some blogger who is referred to as "IRT" pisses off Roosh is that Roosh then tries to stir up a mob that would harass this poor guy in real life. Roosh seems quite insecure, actually. It’s all just a facade, though. It won’t happen that some Internet jockeys roam suburbs and shopping malls to figure out who “IRT” really is, and it’s further quite unlikely that Roosh has any information beyond that guys IP address, which can of course be linked to his geographic region. Yet, Roosh is into fear-mongering and ominously tells people that if they want help identifying “IRT”, they should message him as he claims that he can give more information. That’s just a page out of the “fear, uncertainty, doubt” playbook. “IRT” is safe. Yet, Roosh is scared. He’s scared by some random blogger on the Internet who would get only a fraction of the attention he’s getting if Roosh wouldn’t obsess about him. So, what’s the problem, dude?

I do find it pathetic that Roosh V attempts to put pressure on one of his critics by inciting his forum members to harass him in real life. I think there is a good parallel to the “seduction community” in its heydays. People started to become very critical once “field reports” emerged in which PUAs were thrown out of clubs or beaten up by guys who didn’t quite like that some clown with a furry hat was pestering their girlfriend, even after she politely told them to get away. Those were prime examples that undermined the validity of “game” and its more prominent teachers. Such incidents just made it too obvious that there was something fundamentally wrong with "game", and I do think that such experiences led to an implosion of the scene. Just look around the Internet. The "game" fad has now pretty much died. You still have a couple of weirdos who want to sell boot camps, but plenty of those scammers moved into the self-help niche, or got back to their day job or whatever they were doing before. I wonder what would happen if one of Roosh’s goons got into trouble with the police for stalking “IRT” in real life. Surely some would realize that their fantasies and reality are quite incompatible, and if that happened, then Roosh's goons would face a rude awakening yet again.

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