You would be stupid to blindly trust women

There was a calm, and well-written comment by a woman on my article Pushy, 'mature' women, and their exploitative nature. She wrote:

Just because there are older women out there that are manipulative and controlling, doesn't mean it is beneficial for you to internalize this and so believe you need to exact revenge and fuck and use other women in turn. If that's what you believe you need to do, then by all means go ahead and do it, but also take a look at how that mindset is affecting your own peace of mind. If it's making you more paranoid and agitated and closed off, then what's the use?

What's the use of all this distrust and bitterness if it will inform all of your relationships with women; with people?

First of all, I have no idea why “revenge fucks” are mentioned. I certainly never bothered to fuck a woman, pump and dump her, just so that I could have my revenge on the female sex. Revenge for what? I anything, women claim that guys pump and dump them and are “assholes”, because they themselves never realised that the guy wasn’t serious to begin with. It’s mind boggling to me how you can go home with a woman, spend a night with her, make it clear in words and actions that you do not intend to see her again, only to then get harassed on the phone for weeks. Granted, that kind of behaviour is more common if you hook up with teenagers, but it’s still quite startling. One teenager once texted me that I was "worse than Hitler".  You meet so many wackos, it's unbelievable. But let's get back on topic.


The world is a pretty evil place. There are entire industries devoted to exploiting the naive. Remember when, in the wake of the subprime mortgage crisis in the US, some commenters tried blaming the consumers? Apparently you can scam an entire nation, and then just throw your hands up in the air and say that it wasn't your fault. None of the bigwigs ended up in jail either. Look at how higher education is set up in the US and UK, or or how many utterly pointless insurances there are, or how corrupt a field politics is. Do you know that Israeli PR accuses people of anti-Semitism for protesting against their slaughtering of the Hamas? It’s not as if fundamentally corrupt institutions emerge because human beings are virtuous angels. Quite a few are pretty rotten, men and women alike, which if obviously the explanation why the world is such an incredibly fucked up place.

There is the feminist propaganda that women don’t lie, and are always to be trusted. You’d have to be a complete idiot to believe that. No, I’m not saying that there is no woman you can trust. Absolute statements are very difficult to prove, after all. However, there is an enormous difference between claiming that people can’t be trusted in general, and advising them to think for a bit when something seems fishy.

Let’s say you’re a 38 year old guy with a stable job, nothing too glamorous, but allowing you to have a reasonably comfortable lifestyle. Women never paid much attention to you, but now there is one, 36 and at best mildly attractive, who pushes for marriage and children after knowing you for a few weeks. Unlike other women who seemed closed off, or those who seemed interested but you didn’t know how to make a move, this woman makes things really easy for you. You ended up so quickly in bed, you didn’t know what was going on.

Should that guy view himself in heaven, or in front of the open gates of hell?

Of course she might be Virgin Mary, has only had one or two sexual partners, have a stable job and whatnot, and saved herself just for him. Much more likely, though, is that she is desperately trying to reel that guy in.

All you can do is make precautions. Don’t think that everybody is out to scam you, but do keep in mind that there are many rotten apples out there. The dating arena is indeed highly dangerous for men. If you have a prenup, it might get thrown out in some jurisdictions. In some jurisdictions, marrying a woman is in fact tantamount to enslaving yourself, forcing you to pay lifelong alimony even if you divorce her as a consequence of her inexcusable behavior. Of course, things wouldn’t be quite so bad if modern women would still value the institution of marriage, instead of viewing it as a fast track to personal profit.

Just look up some statistics: women initiate the vast majority of divorces. They are also highly likely to cuckold their partners. Heck, paternity fraud is so common that we have a legal term for it. If it was a very rare occurrence, then there wouldn't even be a fixed term to refer to the phenomenon. There are countries like France where the alleged father will be jailed if he has a DNA test administered to verify paternity. Even worse, in many jurisdictions, that man would even have to pay child support for a kid who isn’t his. Words fail to describe what an incredible slap in the face this is for men. And then feminist propagandists wonder why men are opting out of marriage, preferring to MGTOW it! Of course there is feminist propaganda according to which it shouldn’t matter whose kid it is, because fatherhood is more than a “genetic link”. Seriously, what kind of man likes the prospect of spending a small fortune on raising another man’s child? Hey, if you don't mind paying for one, why not pay for a few others who aren't yours?

You would have to be incredibly stupid to blindly trust other people. Trust has to be earned, and it can very easily be lost. I wonder how a woman whom some guy has known for just a few week or months, and who now wants kids and a marriage could have earned any kind of trust. Her pushiness should make you loses all trust in her. Or think of cases where she “accidentally” got pregnant: a sane man would conclude that this fact alone invalidates her being a worthy partner. Of course, you would have to ask yourself how come that you got her pregnant in the first place. I hope you were aware of the risks that came with her claiming that she's on the pill, and that you shouldn't worry.

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If women are friendly to you, you’re doing something wrong

Following up to my latest post, You have to make a move to know whether she’s really interested in you, I’d like to explore the issue of female friendliness during interactions in bars and night clubs. You’ve probably experienced that women who are interested in you will show this to you in some way or another, and eventually by leaving the place with you. Then there are those who are not interested will want you to go away.


However, there are also woman who are not at all interested in you on a sexual level, but who won’t mind your company. For one, maybe she’s getting bored of her friends, and cock teasing some schmuck is more fun. This is even better if you look as if you don’t dare to make a move. If you walked up to a girl, clearly looking for sexual compatibility, and turned things sexual, she would know what’s up. She’d either go with it, or say something like, “not here”, suggesting to make out in a more private place, be it an apartment, your car, or whatnot.

But if she wasn’t interested, and you were being sexual, say by letting your lips “accidentally” brush her cheek as you speak to her, she would quickly distance herself. True, some women claim to need more time, but there is a good chance that those of the more calculating kind who first want to thoroughly evaluate your status in life before they spread their legs for you.

However, if you talk to a girl and she shows no sign of either approval or disapproval, it means that you are, from a sexual perspective, invisible for her. That’s why you end up hearing that she’s “not that kind of girl” if you try to kiss her, even though the next guy will give her a proper pounding in his car, because she just can’t wait long enough.

The upshot is that getting a neutral reaction from girls is a death knell. Just think of the music you’re listening to at home: it’s probably stuff you like, and the music you don’t like you don’t listen to. There is also muzak, you know, the background music you hear in elevators and stores. It’s thoroughly inoffensive, with no distinctive qualities at all. In fact, you neither like or dislike it. Instead, you are throughly indifferent towards it. But would you listen to it at home? Probably not.

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You have to make a move to know whether she’s really interested in you

There was an interesting remark by a member of my forum recently. He wrote:

The reactions I got from women recently and in past times when I tried to physically escalate rapidly at nighttime have shown me that women who seemed sexually interested at first have been turned off by it. Of course, they could have not been interested in the first place.

There were a few things that stood out to me. First, how can you be sure that she is sexually interested if you just stand there, and if she’s acting rather passively? It wasn’t as if she couldn’t keep her hands off him, or was squeezing his junk. The guy in question admitted, which is nothing to be ashamed of, that he has had very little sexual experience with women.

A mistake many inexperienced guys make, and one that is accidentally or deliberately exploited by alleged pickup gurus is that they mistake mere friendliness for sexual interest. This is why those gurus teach you “openers” that are non-sexual and not particularly risky. You’re supposed to entertain them, and gradually turn things sexual. She tolerates your presence, and you mistakenly believe you're making progress, even though you're only treading water.

If she’s not sexually attracted, then it doesn’t really matter how interesting you stories are. True, she may willingly listen to you, but she’s not going to fuck you — unless you turn out to be a successful standup comedian with millions in the bank.

She looks at you and knows whether she’s interested. It’s a biological response. If you bang her and later on ask for why she ended up going home with you, you’ll only get some instantaneously made up explanation that may or may not be true. This is because sexual attraction is a biological response, not a rational one. On the other hand, fucking a guy just for his money is something she does because she's been thinking her plan through. However, those of you who belong to that category of guy may know that such women act much differently towards you than those who are sexually attracted.

But let’s say she’s standing there and seemingly enjoys your presence. Maybe you think she’s sexually interested. It could of course also be the case that she just wants some male attention, to appear desired, or get some free drinks out of you. It’s easy for her to pretend that she’s interested in you as long as you don’t make a move. It's also very easy for her to pretend that she's sexy and attractive if she's got some guy talking to her, even if she isn't interested in him at all. Plenty of women won't turn an opportunity down to get their ego stroked. It just doesn't mean that she'll stroke your cock in return.

Some time ago a guy told me that he ended up talking to some girl in a hotel bar, bought her a couple of drinks, and she was rather flirtatious — but when he suggested going for a walk, and after she refused, asking for her number — she claimed she was “not that kind of girl” and  walked off, in a pretend-indignant way. There is a bright side to that, though. As the German philosopher Schopenhauer wrote — I’m paraphrasing from memory, and translating from German, so please don’t bug me if you can’t find the exact same phrase in a translation:

No money is better spent than money we’ve been tricked out of. After all, we directly traded it for wisdom.

If more men would put a monetary value on the time they spend on women who only lead them on, I'm tempted to think they would realize the mistakes they are making. I hope that those of you who fall for those tricks will now start to trade not just your money, but also your time, directly for wisdom.

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Pushy, ‘mature’ women, and their exploitative nature

In recent comments there was some discussions about the suitability of certain women for relationships, particularly when less experienced guys are involved. Those poor souls are seemingly targeted by women who push hard for marriage and children. In those circumstances there is a lot of disbelief involved on behalf of the guys. Less experienced guys who suddenly meet a woman are so happy that finally someone, anyone, shows interest in them that they throw all caution out of the window. Let’s further explore those dynamics.

First, let’s restate that women who push hard for marriage and children, after barely knowing the guy, tend to be a bit older, and thus are desperate to finally get a partner. They may feel that they haven’t achieved much in life, realise that their looks are fading, and that men don’t seem all that interested in them anymore, at least the more attractive, more desirable ones, whom she may or may not have gotten when she was younger.


Knowing that they won't be getting any younger, they start to shop around. Suddenly the “losers” get some attention. They may have a stable job or, in the current economy, any job at all, and from the looks of it, she doesn’t get the impression that he’s been much of a player. This makes him a prime target since he will be more easily controllable. What that poor shuck doesn’t know, though, is that girls under that kind of pressure can be quite active, to put it mildly. While she pretends to fall head over heals in love with you, you may be the second or third guy this year she has attempted to reel in. In particularly bad cases, you’re the third guy she’s currently working on.

What I’ve learnt from my encounters with more mature women was that they were incredibly pushy, and were trying to rush through typical stages of relationships. You know, using “we” when suggesting things, and therefore suggesting a unity that doesn’t exist yet or which you intend to never enter. Or introducing you to her friends, discussing renting a place together, or even inviting you to have dinner with her parents. I once met a woman who was so crazy that she told me I had to have dinner with her parents after talking to her for 30 or 40 minutes --- with no sexual contact at all involved. That's the moment when you excuse yourself, and try to remember whether you've told her any details that would make it possible for her to track you down.


Estrogen must be one hell of a drug. You can have a desperate 30 year old in bed who attempts to coax you into sex without a condom because you can trust her that she’s on the pill. (Yeah, right.) The next morning, if you didn’t manage to escape on time, she brings up plans for this and next weekend. If you panic in those situations, you’re right. Panic you should.

Sadly, a guy with little to know experience won’t know that something isn’t quite right and run into her trap: Oh, how come she is now pregnant all of a sudden? I guess she must have forgotten to take the pill (for weeks). What, why would you want to have a pre-nup? Don’t you trust her? Don’t you believe in love? How can you be so unromantic?

Women can be incredibly calculating when it comes to marriage, thanks to contemporary legal realities. One of the worst cases I was ever told was a story of a guy who let his new girlfriend move in — after three weeks! He had a nice condo, and when discussing how much rent she should pay, she suggested to cover part of his monthly mortgage payment. Broseph, do you have an inkling of rationality left in your mushy brain? Just like it’s better to be scammed for small amount of money in your youth, so that you learn to take care of yourself, and not later in life when the stakes may be higher, so is it better to have bad experiences with women when you’re young, so that they prepare you for the bigger trials that may be ahead of you, and know that you can’t blindly trust women — and people in general.

When it comes to women, and money, the naivety of inexperienced men is all-too easily exploited. In the case of inexperienced, older guys, this is a recipe for disaster. My advice, should you find yourself in a “relationship” with an older woman who pushes hard for commitment after a few weeks is to treat extremely carefully. I’d say that you should get rid of her asap, but knowing how weak inexperienced guys tend to be, this will hardly work. In his mind, he finally is "someone" because he's got a woman, no matter how plain or homely she may be. Finally he belongs.

But what is an inexperienced, weak-willed guy to do then? If you really have no balls, and don’t dare to tell her to get lost, then simply refuse any kind of formal commitment — but tell her that you don’t object to the relationship in general, provided this is the case. She will quickly move on, because she’s in a hurry. You’ll probably hear that you are “immature” and “commitment-phobic”. The “man up” cries from feminist corners in the mainstream media target exactly those men who think for themselves and just can't be convinced that taking a pushy older woman as a partner is such a great idea.

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What you can Learn from the Fact that the Magaluf Girl Sucked 24 Cocks in 2 Minutes

A lot of ink has been spilt over the 24 cocks in 2 minute stunt of that girl on vacation on Magaluf. Clearly, she is enjoying herself, she is not drunk, and nobody is taking advantage of her. This is a great starting point for highlighting one particular social phenomenon: “nice guys”, call them white knights and manginas if you want, who think that if they treat a girl “well”, do her favours, and serve as an emotional tampon, she will eventually come to realize what a great guy he is, become his girlfriend and live happily ever after with him. In the seduction community guys like that are called ‘orbiters’, and they are deservedly ridiculed. What is interesting, though, is that such guys harbour pretty abstruse ideas about sexuality.


If you look at that girl, you have to concede that she’s quite good-looking: tall, slim, blonde. I’m sure she’s got plenty of guys fawning over her who never make a move. She’s surely being idolised by them. Probably every girl, no matter how promisuous she is, is someone else’s Virgin Mary. What is so amusing, though, is that those women happily string guys like that along, and take advantage of them for months or even years. They defend their inexcusable behaviour by claiming that they didn’t ask for any favours, or that they don’t want to “hurt his feelings” and tell him that they like getting showered with gifts, but would rather rub her va-jay-jay with Tabasco sauce than having sex with him.

It quite tragic that inexperienced men think sex is oh-so special, and that it takes ‘work’ to get it. Sex is seen as some kind of reward by them. As any guy who ever pulled a girl home from a nightclub knows, there is plenty of sex to be had with very little effort. Other guys are in denial about this too, and claim that people don’t really get laid from going to clubs, or that if a guy and a girl leave together, they’ve known each other. No, not at all! They appear to know each other simply because they leave together. How on earth would anyone even be able to tell, from watching a guy and a girl holding hands and heading towards the exit whether they met that night or have known each other?

On the other hand, what do you do if you have video proof? Let’s say you told some orbiter that the girl he’s fantasising about has banged a different guy every night she went out on her last trip? They’d tell you that you shouldn’t talk so much bullshit. But compared to one girl sticking 24 cocks in her mouth in two minutes, that’s quite harmless, isn’t it? I’m quite happy that there is footage, not of the ‘reality porn’ variety, but of real girls whoring it up. Don’t believe that girls go on vacation to bang tons of guys? Well, take a vacation and see for yourself. Manginas of the world: girls are handing out sex like candy. Open your eyes if you don’t believe it.

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Women's Liberation hits a new low: Girl sucks 24 cocks in 2 minutes for a free drink

This weekend a video of a girl who works her way through 24 cocks in exchange for a bootle of cava, that's a Spanish wine, went viral. You go, girl!

The NSFW link is below:

http://www.mallorcadiario.com/concurso-de-felaciones-a-cambio-de-copas-gratis-en-magaluf/

I'm sure she'll go far in life, given her display of ambition and determination.

I'm not sure I want to write much about this. Maybe I will once the feminist brigade rolls out and accuses people of "slut shaming". Am I joking? I honestly don't know, given how frequently that group of people embarrasses itself. I'll keep an eye on Jezebel.

What do you guys think about this?

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She is not the only girl who would want you, but run if she is

Men who lack success with women often hold questionable beliefs, as a direct consequence of their lack of experience. One example is the following comment, left on my post Let’s talk about Emotions:

Too bad there's a real possibility you dump that first girlfriend and never meet anyone again.

No, this is not a "real possibility". You can’t blame a guy who has little to no success with women to think like that, though. However, first you would have to know why that particular guy barely ever gets laid. This normally boils down to an unfortunate combination of poor presentation, little money, lack of social interactions. All of this is fairly standard. Then there are exceptions, and I’ve met a few of those men, who have their life together, dress well, are in shape, but still don’t get anywhere with girls. The issue those men have is that they don’t notice when a girl is interested, and don’t show any initiative either. I sometimes refer to this as “anti-game”.

No matter what your starting position is, and it may very well not be a particularly good one, you can improve your chances tremendously, if you work in yourself. The question is whether the potential pay-off is worth it, but that’s an entirely different issue. But let’s go back to the initial claim, and take it at face value. Indeed, if you are so desperate and so inexperienced that when you think of women you can only think of dry spells lasting years, you might be happy to take any girl who wants you. Careful you must be, young Pad wan!

Chances are that if you believe that the girl you are currently with would be the only one who would want you, you’re quite literally being set up. If you are an attractive guy who lacks self-confidence, then you are almost guaranteed to have paired up with a girl far below what you could get. Further, let’s look at the situation of the stereotypical unattractive nerd. Suddenly some girl shows great interest in you, and pushes the interaction forward. You are overjoyed that a real woman is interested in you. Finally! If anything, this should set off an alarm bell.

Pushy girls are either feeling their decreased sexual market value and getting desperate, or (this is an inclusive 'or') they are “reformed sluts” who realised that their lifestyle, while enjoyable at the moment, is not sustainable. Then there are women who very selectively chose their partners. I’m hardly the only guy who has met women like that, but I’ve met some rather peculiar ones. One woman made a point --- yes, she frequently verbalised this --- to only get involved with guys who were professionally rather well-established. Of course she would wait until she had sex with them because she had to properly check whether the guys had enough money for her plans. Eventually she found a sucker, and ‘accidentally’ got pregnant. Needless to say, she later on took him to the cleaners. From afar it all looked as if it was executed by clockwork. I bet all of you with just a little bit of experience have met, or at the very least heard of such women.

I think it is rather peculiar that we, as a society, warn young girls not to get involved with guys who will just pump and dump them — well, the warnings are there, but obviously not all girls heed the advice. But where are the societally sanctioned warnings to young men not to get involved with girls who seem to primarily have ulterior interests? Girls go gaga over the question whether the dick they’re currently riding might ‘love’ them, but as a guy you’re immediately branded a huge asshole if you question whether a woman might perceive you as a walking wallet.

Let’s be realistic, though: if women ignore you, then you can’t be very attractive. If you are attractive, but are unaware of it, or unable to take the initiative, you’re going to sell yourself short. So, what could that one girl who is oh-so into you possibly see in you that all the others don’t? Just as hot girls get pursued by many guys, so do attractive guys get plenty of chances. It doesn't mean that you would want to fuck all those girls, but the offers are definitely there. Likewise, hot girls don't want to go home with any dude who hits on them. If this is not part at all of your reality, and now suddenly one girl seems to desperately want you, then better ask yourself whether it is plausible that you are so special that only she saw something in you, but all the others didn't.

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